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I wish there was more I could do against this man than just NOT buy his comics. It doesn't seem like it's enough.



Bill Willingham wrote:
And of course there were scores of those claiming that this incident was the last straw and they're giving up my books, or the Bat books, or all comic books, forever. Here's a splash of water for everyone who ever has or ever will make such an hysterical claim on a message board: We never believe you. If you're the type to indulge in "how dare they do that!" we know you'll always be back for further outrages. Those addicted to indignation need constant indignation feeding.


Willingham's books have long been fed by the indignation of message groups. As comic books lose their letter columns and defer only to newsgroups to keep them alive, coupled with their continued withdrawal from the public eye, they will increasingly be a playground for the Willinghams and Millars of the world -- and decreasingly be anything for anyone else.

As for me -- I haven't been back for a further Willingham outrage since sometime back in the 1980s or so, when Mr. Willingham saw fit to savage someone who dared write a letter to his ELEMENTALS comic, citing indignation that said reader missed Willingham's art. Willingham's reply, which included the phrase "I'm not your personal art nigger," touched off a storm of replies.

And Willingham is not my personal art nigger. Once it was clear that he wasn't interested in giving me or the other readers who slogged through his comic's ups and downs anything resembling entertainment -- or even a shred of respect -- for our dollars, I stopped purchasing his comic and haven't bought a title with his name on it since. I used to believe that one should "support a title" -- especially an indie title or semi-indie one like ELEMENTALS -- so the authors could experiment with new things. Willingham showed me that wasn't always true -- some folks just can't discriminate between good attention and bad attention.

Life's too short to get indignant at comic books written by folks who feed off indignation. Message boards don't change comic books -- not buying comic books changes comic books.

Date: 2005-08-28 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ani-bester.livejournal.com
I thought he was an artist? When was he a writer?

You know it's funny, in Japan having the aritst and the writer by the same perosn seems to work. In the US not so much.

I wonder if it's because in Japan, you are often artist, writer, and *creator*

I kinda wish the USA would pick up on that a bit more and rather than having the never ending comic series of DOOM start putitng out more finite titles =P

Like Amthyst, which I pretend was only a 12 issue mini series. Don't tell it wasn't, I blocked ther est of it frim my mind!




Date: 2005-08-28 08:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karabou.livejournal.com
I don't know, if he's ever been an artist on something I haven't seen it. He writes his own series, Fables, and (currently) Robin and Day of Vengence... along with some Batman.

And as far as the Japanese artist/writer/creator all in one.. I don't know, it doesn't always work. Not every artist can writer.. writer draw, etc. I've read plenty of manga with a very weak story, but great art.. and vise versa. Although, the same can be said about a comic with a different writer and artist. I love the current writer on Nightwing, but I dislike the art. Oh well.

I kinda wish the USA would pick up on that a bit more and rather than having the never ending comic series of DOOM start putitng out more finite titles =P

There are some.. just depends what you read. ;) I was happy when Brian K. Vaughan said that Y: The Last Man would only be 60 issues long.. that means he has an ending planned. Yays!

Date: 2005-08-28 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ani-bester.livejournal.com
Huh, I kept picking up fables hoping it would be good but it's enver held my attention ^^

That's true on manga comics, I think maybe what I was getting at is you probably don't have as many people going AHHHHH you wrote him wrong, when the writer is the creator (of course theyc an still do that, witness People's reation to FLagg in book 7, but whatever). It just seem sless likely when it's not like the 200th writer and 450th artist to take over a character that's been around forever ^^.

One slef contained story I keep meaning to pick up is Orbiter. Looks interesting, It almost got it's ending pulled because it oinvolved a space craft blwogin up and it was schedualed for release the a week after the space craft exploded on re-rentry 0.o

A Distant soil is also finishing up.
I'm going nuts, Colleen caim out with issue 38 but my comic guys can't find it for me 0.o

Date: 2005-08-28 10:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] unlovablehands.livejournal.com
He drew a JLA annual in the late 1980s. That's all I've ever seen of Willingham's art. It's better than his writing, anyway.

Date: 2005-08-29 12:30 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] metron-ariston.livejournal.com
He got his start on an indie series... and went on to draw some porn (http://www.billwillingham.com/ironwood.html).

Date: 2005-08-28 10:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coldbeverage.livejournal.com
haha screw you willingham!! I have only ever bought fables because the cover artist James Jean is a sex god of art his work makes me swoon. I just rip off the covers and use the rest to line the bottom of my hampster cage!! bwahaha!!!!

Date: 2005-08-29 05:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cruelest-month.livejournal.com
Geez. I'd like to do a lot worse to him besides not buying his comics and I don't think I ever have bought his comics.

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